Apparently Gothenborg have forfeited the game as they cannot field a team. If this is the case then some serious questions need to be asked by the Board regarding this sorry state of affairs.
As far as we can ascertain, Stockholm Exiles were training all week for this encounter and yes with their imports still here ready to represent their club. Grf on the other hand had too few players, perhaps their imports had already returned home, but surely they could have inquired of their near neighbours (Spartacus) as to whether they could borrow some players, then approach both the Board and the Exiles commitee to see if it was possible to play the game. No, the short answer was to forfeit, leaving the other finalists without a game and just as importantly, the Board with a red face and all those other clubs that entered this competition should be outraged. No wonder Swedish Rugby is struggling!
If a club in the Elite was to forfeit a league match, they would be relegated to the league below, should that not also be the case here? This really was unworthy of the game and of Grf, they should feel ashamed.
Our congratulations to Stockholm Exiles on achieving the double, albeit in embarrassing circumstances,
Great för Uppsala who bothered going to Göteborg for the semifinal...
ReplyDeleteobviously Gothenburg didn't want to travel all the way up to Stockholm to get their asses kicked. A good compromise would have been to ask the Exiles to travel down to Gothenburg.
ReplyDeletesome prick said earlier that göteborg had a fine end to their season,guess this no show proves it!
ReplyDeleteThe Board will do their usual Ostrich trick over this debacle and bury their heads in the sand. Or act as Pontius Pilate and wash their hands of it!
ReplyDeleteDisgraceful act by Göteborg and an insult to all those clubs who entered the competition. To think that I once supported them, no more.
Pretty much a farcical end to a truly farcical competition. From the very beginning the Svenska Cup was nothing more than a comedy of errors.
ReplyDeleteThough Göteborg should rightly be condemned for their no show, the bulk of finger pointing needs to go at the union and those responsible for the competition.
From day one it was a joke, fixtures organised only for the Stockholm/north region and every other club told to make it up as they go along. Göteborg qualified for the semi's without playing a single game as they were the only ones willing to organise a qualification event and all the other clubs were a no show.
Malmo made it to the semi's via the same route as the fixture secretary at the time Magnus Stangenberg could be arsed to organise a set of fixtures, even with coaches all over the country requesting them. The very same man who went on to become national development officer.
It was a SRF sponsored compeition and as such it should have been given full support and management by the union. The same goes for the 7's also chaos personified again poorly timetabled into the season by the same group of people.
As for the remarks as to GRF asking Spartacus to farm a few players out, that will never happen with Mike Hale/Jonas Ahl at one club and Neil Johnson at the other.
Absolutely ridiculous!
ReplyDeleteSpeaking as an exiles player we feel cheated out of playing in this game, yes we are cup "champions" but what a hollow victory and what a terrible note to end the rugby season in Sweden on for everyone involved in the sport.
We had considered whether, if asked, we would play the fixture in Goteborg and everyone would have been prepared to do that but instead we find out on FRIDAY that they had pulled out without even consulting us. We had also trained both Tuesday and Thursday evening for no reason.
Everyone associated with the club should be ashamed of their actions.
Us loan players from Spartacus, what a joke, ha ha ha ha! we would sooner forfeit the game.
ReplyDeleteThere isn´t enough teams and players to support a league-season and a cup at the moment.
ReplyDeleteIf we double the amount of clubs and triple the amount of players, then maybe it could work.
As a Spartacus player, I would have had no problem helping Göteborg out in a game like this. Especially if it was a home game. Another trip to Stockholm might be asking a bit much :-)
ReplyDeleteBut seriously, the rivaly between the two clubs stays on the pitch, I know a lot of the Goteborg players, and they are by and large a good bunch.
I'd wager that the anonymous comment at 21:32 is not actually a Goteborg player, but just a troll.
What a joke? the Only joke around here is your rugby club!
ReplyDeleteIf I was playing for Göteborg I wouldn't have travelled up to Stockholm either.
ReplyDeleteExiles should have told Göteborg they would just play their Swedish born players against them, then perhaps they would have travelled.
Now that is a game I would like to see. Exiles swedish born players V Göteborg.
"If I was playing for Göteborg I wouldn't have travelled up to Stockholm either."
ReplyDeleteHow pathetic?
I would do a hell of a lot to play in a cup final, I'd train all year, and play any team my side were drawn against (oh thats right I do!), and I'd consider it an honour just to play in a national cup final, regardless of the result. That a team does not show for a cup final giving only a few hours notice is symptomatic of everthing that is wrong with Swedish rugby, no respect, no self respect. I reckon Exiles would happily have played Sweden qualified players only just to get a game, but if you don't ask.....
Pathetic not to show up, pathetic.
Shame on Gtbg. Shame.
And here we are again back to the Swedes vs Everyone Else syndrome.
ReplyDeleteAs a non Swede I'd love to see the Swedish National Team with 23 natural born swedes in it, everyone holding a Swedish Passport. All of them capable of producing quality rugby.
Might seem like a pipe dream yes? But I'd like to see it.
But that will not happen until this Them and Us crap stops. Instead of assaulting and bitching at us 'foreigners' try listening to us.
We after all learnt our rugby in a far tougher and far more developed rugby environment. So we might just have something that could help you achieve yours and my dream of seeing 30 odd Swedish born players playing in a World Cup.
You certainly won't get their by pissing off everyone by telling us to go home and take our rugby knowledge with us.
anonymous 18oct 18:18, even better, exiles should have played with the u17´s with one arm tied behind their back, come on get real, to say stupid things just might as well shut up
ReplyDeleteWhat a pathetic idea... why not Exiles U11 players V Göteborg?
ReplyDeleteInteresting!
ReplyDeleteSome players in Gothenburg say that they are not interested to play an insignificant match against Exiles Sv.cupfinal!? Is there perhaps a protest against too many hired mercenary players?
It shows more than maybe just that they could not afford or desire to travel to Stockholm and get beat by a lot of points.
Is it perhaps that we all of us shall do, refusing to play against a -foreignteam- in the Swedish league?
But the problem is you foreigners come here and do nothing but insult us. You might have all of this "rugby knowledge" but you mustn't have any talent in your home countries otherwise you would be playing there earning money.
ReplyDeleteLet's be honest, I have done a google search on some players and the ones I have found have never played at a high level in their countries apart from the Spanish Hooker.
None of the South Africans or Australians that I could find have played at a top level in their countries.
Your dream of seeing "30 odd swedish born players playing in a World Cup" will never happen while you keep coming here and taking the place of our best junior talent. Don't you understand that you are forcing junior players out of the game because you want to come here for a holiday.
We have seen you come and go every year.
I agree with the statement that perhaps its time for the other clubs to do something about it. Perhaps we should all join together and protest against playing Exiles until they play by the spirit of the game in Sweden.
The Federation won't do anything because they continually bury their heads in the sand just like with the national team selections, so it's up to the Elite competition teams to start talking amongst yourselves.
It's the only way that we will be able to improve the game in our country, otherwise it will continue to be whoever has the most money and imports wins our competition. This is the first year in eight years that neither Exiles nor Enköping were in the SM and a "swedish" club made the SM.
Do we want a competition won by money and imports rather than by swedish players?
Interesting!
ReplyDeleteSome players in Gothenburg say that they are not interested to play an insignificant match against Exiles Sv.cupfinal!? Is there perhaps a protest against too many hired mercenary players?
It shows more than maybe just that they could not afford or desire to travel to Stockholm and get beat by a lot of points.
Is it perhaps that we all of us shall do, refusing to play against a -foreignteam- in the Swedish league?
Oh yes what a great idea that would be, such a mature way of dealing with your xenophobia, isn't that what first division football clubs do when drawn against the multinational premiership football big boys in England, in arguably the richest and most succesful league and cup set up in world sport? erm no actually, what they do is relish playing the big boys, hanker after a draw with the biggest team possible, full well knowing they might get stuffed, but think what the heck I'll test myself against the best around and give it my all. If they win they are giant killers, lose and ther is no shame at all.... maybe Swedish rugby should take a look at that attitude? Afterall it seems to work.
Attitude's like "we don't want to travel all the way up to Stockholm to get beaten by a lot" IN A CUP FINAL is ridiculous and shows a real lack of character by GRF.
ReplyDeleteThat sort of loser mentality certainly isn't going to improve rugby in this country.
You say that "us foreigners" just come here and abuse u...what the HELL do you expect with this pathetic, no guts, kinder garden attitude in possibly the toughest contact sport in the world.
The reason why we are so bemused by it is because in England rugby is taught to promote values such as teamwork, commitment, discipline and respect for others. Which of these values have GRF qualified for with last weeekends actions?
And for your info " 19 October 2010 15:33" Speaking as a member of the 4 English forwards who came over to exiles this season did it never dawn on you that in England rugby is a winter sport, in Sweden a SUMMER sport therefore when we go home we will rejoin our teams only a couple of games into their new season.
And to save you slaving away on the internet: myself and one other English guy played England schools, were both members of a premiership academy and played for our Premiership teams respective A teams. The remaining two have both played county schools rugby and are returning to their National Division 2 club. The fact we've played in Sweden isn't to do with being crap players more to do with wanting to see a new place and have some new experiences.
I wonder what the Federation would do if all Elite clubs forfeited games against Exiles next year. Perhaps it is the only way for them to actually take their head out of the sand.
ReplyDeleteIf all clubs had an agreement to forfeit every game against Exiles until semis it would send a message to Federation that we don't like what Exiles are doing.
I know I could talk to players at my club and we would be open to it.
Something needs to be done
You exile players are so arrogant. Do you not understand that comments are aimed at the bigger picture. It is not that I hate foreigners coming here to play rugby, if they pay for their own airfares, rent, and spending money, I hate that one club can have 15 imports costing swedish players the opportunity to play.
ReplyDeleteSure allow 5 imports to play for your club but then let the rest be swedish. How can we grow our game if you come in and stop players from playing A team rugby. Even one of our national players, Sullivan, has sat on your bench more than actually playing on the field and now he has to play test matches. That doesnt help our game. Did exiles really need that many imports this year to win the SM?
Would it be so bad that they only had 5 imports and the rest swedish. What would the problem be. The only thing I can see is that perhaps for 1 or 2 years they may not make the SM, but is that such a bad thing if in the long run they are allowing 10 swedish players to gain experience in A team rugby.
To 19 October 2010 15:33
ReplyDeleteYes I am going start this comment with an insult, but that is because you deserve it... you are an absolute tool!
Now lets break down your comment shall we...
Firstly, you state that none of our players have played that higher level after you have researched some of our players. For starters I think its rather sad that you sit on the internet in your spare time and search the credentials of an opposing team. Have you really nothing better to do? Honestly mate you need to find a bird. And secondly, do you think the internet is the fountain of all knowledge on junior players? Do you know the leagues and standards of which we all play in back home? No, I thought not, so before posting a comment about your 'research', make sure its thorough!
Secondly,'we foreigners are the reason you dont have juniors as we take them' and 'we only come here for a holiday'. To inform you, the juniors are doing just swell at the exiles, obviously you dont have a thriving and successful junior section like ourselves. And for the holiday comment... If I was going to go on holiday, I wouldnt come to one of the most expensive cities in Europe for 6months! I came here to play rugby and do what Scouts Sullivan and Gowland told me to do... win SM gold. Which I did, along with the national cup... Boooom!
Thirdly, on your comment saying 'maybe we should all join up with GRF and not play Exiles to improve the spirit of rugby in Sweden'? Once again, Have you heard yourself? GRF completely disrespected the cup and every other team in the competition. They showed no characteristics that rugby is built upon... Teamwork, sportsmanship, discipline, integrity and RESPECT! If thats the spirit of rugby in Sweden you desire its no wonder you swedes are so poor at the sport.
Penultimately, once again, you point your finger to the board. Whenever anything goes the way of the exile, you cry for the board. And when nothing does happen, you call for their heads... Think you'd live a better life in France pal the way you protest about every minute decision they make... just like them I think youd start a protest against them if the weather didnt go your way on a match day!
Finally, your statement of 'do we want a competition won by money n imports or by swedish talent'. Id like to see a competition containing nothing but decent rugby played in the spirit of the game... you xenophobes, exilephobes and overall idiots do not realise it doesn't matter who has the most imports, the least swedes or the most money. Its about raising the profile of rugby in Sweden (along with the spirit) and entertaining the fans who come to watch week in, week out. Stop being so bitter and see the bigger picture.
I think that's your entire statement shot down, ripped to shreds and whoever wrote it, humiliated... Boooooom!
I have to agree with the Stockholm Exiles 'import' player. It is a disgrace that people in this country are advocating a boycott against Exiles! The standard that they are setting should be seen as a target for others to attain. Yes it can be done without having to resort to bringing in numerous players from outside Sweden. It is about attitude, coaching and desire. For the record Hammarby did beat Exiles this year, gave them a couple of competitive games in the finals and Spartacus put up a fight at home against them. So, instead of being negative and defeatist, don't follow the disgraceful attitude of Göteborg, see it as a challenge and take it on. That is what will help develop Swedish Rugby!
ReplyDeletei think its nice to see (swedish) teams can play good rugby against exiles it should be a good goal to reach and train harder to reach it
ReplyDeleteTo anonymous 20:33,
ReplyDeleteHere you go again with an insult against Swedish people. Do you think you do yourself or Exiles any pride by writing constant negative comments. The person's comments who you are trying to attack has some good points, not all.
All we here is that Exile players are of such a high standard in their own country, and time and time people have asked for more information on the players standard so we can understand better but no Exile player actually tells us anything. On other times all the answer says is to google it. Well someone has googled it and found players of very little ability. If you find this offends you, please tell us all the information which has been asked for. I would much prefer to think that our team was beaten by players of high standard in their homelands than by players of low division clubs. I have played in New Zealand and think I know the standard well because of this, so instead of insult please proudly tell us of the high experience of Exile player.
Your second comment is read with biased angry eyes. The part you quote was incorrect and read incorrectly. You do not know how to write quotes as you have shown. I feel the writer is saying that you come here and stop the Exile juniors from playing A team rugby. The person was actually paying a compliment to the Exiles saying you have the best juniors, as lots of writers have said in lots of comments, that has never been questioned by anybody, however you being in the country stops juniors from playing top class rugby in their own country. As an example if you were not here a Swedish player, perhaps from last year's juniors, may have had the chance to play this year in Exiles top team. That would be good for our game in the long run. An Australian and a South African have stopped Sullivan from playing in top team this year. Is that fair? How does that help our game and national team develop. So please do not think anybody is saying anything bad against Exiles juniors nobody on here ever has.
Your three and four comments I think are all about the board. You appear to know a lot about the board. Can you please tell me what the Federation actually does for our game? Please tell me what decisions they have made this year? I feel the whole protest call is because I as a long time player do not know what the Federation does or any decision it actually makes, and the only way that we might get action from them is to send them a strong message that we have had enough. In your country Australia strike action is quite common is it not. What many people have said and you need to read their comments without your angry attitude is that we do not mind Exile having import players, however when is enough enough. To help our game grow, the game that we will play after you leave here after 1 or 2 years, we need more Swedish players playing at the top level. Their should be a number that is stopped with imports. What will stop Enköping, Hammarby, Spartacus from next year buying 15 import players to win SM? Nothing. Can you see the danger of this? Exiles have the best juniors in the country, let them play.
Your last comment I think I answered to. Your comment does not make sense but you read with angry eyes again. For me it does matter "who has the most imports, the least swedes or the most money". It is not all about "raising the profile of rugby in Sweden", at the expense of our own players. I would question how imports raise the profile of rugby in Sweden. You have said that it doesnt matter if top teams are full of imports with no swedes, as long as they raise the profile of rugby and entertain the fans. This is very stupid statement surely.
I understand your anger but please when you read a comment do not go attack. Think before you write so you try and bring pride to your club instead of further hatred from people.
I think in your own words "that's your entire statement shot down, ripped to shreds and whoever wrote it, humiliated... Boooooom!"
Hahaha! Its kinda funny to read all the comments. Im not an exiles player but stop crying about all the imports. Yeah, so what they buy 15 foreign players to their team to win SM. I actually like to play against those kind of teams, cause when you know that they have english aussie and kiwi players then you try to do your best and test your self agaist them, and smash them as hard as you can everytime.
ReplyDeleteLike my first trainer in A team said, if you want to play in your position, deserve the spot. I think everyone should do that, about those swedish guys who didnt play and were on the bench, well thats sad i guess, but exiles went for the better player.
Everyone should get a chance to prove themselves, if they do good they do good if not, well thats to bad.
To Anonymous, 19 october 2010 20:09
ReplyDeleteIf all clubs forfeited their games against Exiles they would all be kicked out of the comp and Exiles would win the gold by default.
You really didn´t think that through did you?
Martin who would kick all teams out of the competition.
ReplyDeleteAnonymous 9:43am where do the imports stop. As somebody wrote what now stops Enköping, Hammarby, Spartacus etc in 2011 buying players sp they win SM. I don't think anybody says imports are bad the Federation just need to stop the amount any team can have so our competition is not won by who has most money and best imports.
i wanted to play the final, problem is grf stars did not, this year they only plays the ones they think we can win and we gets on the bench. next year will be same.
ReplyDeletei wanted to play the final, problem is grf stars did not, this year they only plays the ones they think we can win and we gets on the bench. next year will be same.
ReplyDeleteSorry to hear that mate, if i were your coach you would be the first one on my team sheet. Thats the kind of attitude anyone who calls themselves a rugby player should have.
Exiles does not have the best juniors in the country, Vänersborg thrashed them with final score 48-0 in the semi two weeks ago...
ReplyDeleteFrom where do you think such thoughts will come?
ReplyDeleteMaybe because you can´t the Swedish rugby history?
Exiles is a club that has exercised regularly and pushes the boundaries to their advantage and when they recruit gnomes that believe their bullshit, they can only lead to confrontation
YOU help us and the Swedes with ammunition!
"Teamwork, sportsmanship, discipline, integrity and RESPECT!
If that’s the spirit of rugby in Sweden you desire its no wonder you Swedes are so poor at the sport."
Or maybe it’s because you and others have been too poor to help develop Swedish rugby?
"I came here to play rugby and do what Scouts Sullivan and Gowland told me to do... win SM gold. Which I did, along with the national cup... Boooom!" National Cup….. hi hi hi! Booom!
"you xenophobes, exilephobes and overall idiots do not realize it doesn't matter who has the most imports, the least Swedes or the most money. It’s about raising the profile of rugby in Sweden (along with the spirit) and entertaining the fans who come to watch week in, week out. Stop being so bitter and see the bigger picture."
YES PLEASE DO THAT!!!!!!
"I think that's your entire statement shot down, ripped to shreds and whoever wrote it, humiliated... Boooooom! " I didn’t write it but you missed the target again!
"It is about attitude, coaching and desire" Yes! Yes! Yes!
And learn something from it!
It is exactly these comments that reflect the attitude of many of the imports and allow us who have been in Sweden longer time ashamed of our compatriots. Typical arrogant bully mentality that hardly leads to the Swedish rugby gets better. If we/you do not even understand the bigger picture, it is perhaps not even worth discussing this issue here.
Do you not understand the simple fact that the juniors stop playing rugby, because of the Exiles fly in a brand new team in 2010, so what can you say....?
"I have to agree with the Stockholm Exiles 'import' player.
It is a disgrace that people in this country are advocating a boycott against Exiles!"
Or maybe it’s the only thing they and YOU understand and maybe it’s the last resort?
If you follow other sports discussions of this subject, it's the same discussion in the whole world that we should be afraid of our youth players and give them space for otherwise we shall be no growth without just hired mercenary players. There is no feasible way for Swedish rugby or other countries!
Dont play for GRF then! You are welcome at Spartacus!
ReplyDeletethe only true fact here and in the rest of the world is that young people in general, with some exceptions, is more interested in getting laid/drunk/play videogames/lose time in facebook (choose what´s appliable) than in going to the gym/train harder/fight for your spot/earn your spot (choose what´s appliable) it has nothing to do with average/good/standard/old (choose what´s appliable) players taking their sport. i might sound like an old fart, but when I started playing this sport you had to fight for your shirt, earn your shirt, rip the shirt off that player that was either better than you or more experienced, you cannot expect to be 18 and to get your spot without deserving it.
ReplyDeletewhat you all do is miss the point that is not the same for a kid to play kids one year, and then all the sudden play against men, that´s the reason so many quit, besides the ones before, they can´t handle not being the bosses, the stars, and they are not willing to fight. if in this country every club had 50 juniors jumping in every year, you would get 10 new players a year, 40 would quit, but every year you would get at least 10 to fill the ranks, maybe 2 for the firsts but 8 for the secondes, but the fact is that you hardly get 5 or 6 jumping, so you get 0.7 kids a year through....think about that, and stop losing your time with excuses.
Don't bother joining Spartacus if that's you're problem. It's no different at Spartacus. Certain players start whether they come to training or not.
ReplyDeleteWhilst you have a right to exercise free speech, if you have such as huge issue with the current comp and a team in it, why dont you get officials from your club to sit down with other clubs or the union ?
ReplyDeleteI believe that in the past clubs have struggled to work together due to the exact flavour of this forum. Constant bitching and moaning, and no real action / idea's. The last RDO (a "foreigner")had real idea's and executed them. We now have academies !
Dont you realise that you have a club that has the right to air any problems they see ? Do you reflect your clubs position ? Please understand your contstant bitching and moaning does no good for swedish rugby. You claim you are trying to "help" people to understand what you see as issues, and therefore swedish rugby, but all you are doing is upsetting a lot of people. Please provide constructive ideas to start a decent conversation - your hate is not wanted. Even better, put a plan together, or join the union, or your club board, become and RDO, and make a difference.
I know a few past exiles players that have stayed, and started rugby at the schools they teach at, and even played inter-school comps. Rugby did not exist at these schools before.
That is real action....
Please try to think before you post !
Its a disgrace grf pulled out of a cup final.There season has been diabolical to say the least and they were lucky to stay up.Next season won,t get any better and they will certaintly go down.That was probably the last chance those lads will ever get to play in a senior final. They did,nt even have the balls to show up.
ReplyDeleteI think you are right. It has probably come time that a representative from each club in the Elite competition meet together and discuss what is to be done about the current import situation.
ReplyDeleteAll I can see happening in 2011 is Exiles keep their shopping but also the likes of Enköping really going hard and perhaps Spartacus and Hammarby.
This surely is not good for our competition.
If the Federation will not step in perhaps a unified vote from the teams may force them to act.
Here we go again. Anonymous 15:47 let me guess, you are an exiles player. How can I tell because you are criticising one of our teams AGAIN.
ReplyDeleteDo you know why GRF pulled out of the cup final? If so please share the information because until we hear it from someone at GRF none of us know.
To brand them as having a diabolical season is not fair on them. And then to state that they probably won't play in a senior final again and that they will certainly go down next year, is simply unfair.
I am not a GRF player, in fact I am from Hammarby, but please don't make make negative statements based on lack of knowledge.
This is more evidence as to why there are so many negative comments on here about Exiles players. Please show some respect for each team that tries there hardest to compete each week.
Until we here from someone from GRF can we please stop making up stories.
Anonymous 18.21 you ask someone not to make negative statements based on a lack of knowledge, but you assume that these statements were made by an exiles player with no proof at all as it's annoymous, why assume exiles? Practice what you preach mate!
ReplyDeleteWhy should exiles or any other team bringing in players next season be a problem? We need more players in Sweden not less. The more we have the better for everyone, more games in more leagues. The better those players are the better the overall quality of the competition, which means those Swedish players who get to play at that level will improve even more, the standard over here is already good as we can see by the results of the "Swedish" teams against exiles where some very good exiles players were run mighty close for at least 140 minutes in the semis and finals. Those who can't make it into the top league can play more competitive rugby at a different level in lower leagues wher a lot of foreign players play too! If they improve or prove themselves there they can earn the right to feast at the top table. That's how league systems work in every sport in every country all over the world. And for those who have exiles as their current hate team, don't worry these things go in cycles, the nineties belonged to ping vin, maybe the last decade to exiles, but there will come a time when some order team takes up the challenge, that's sport for you. Don't get bitter because somones doing well for whatever the reason just focus on your own game work hard and try to reach the same level. In short more players for all clubs regardless of origin, better games at all levels, played by more clubs and more teams, that's what we need in Sweden.
ReplyDeleteanonymous at 21 October 2010 18:21
ReplyDeletedont assume the comment is from an exile player, and i might believe you are a player fromn Hammarby...and like it or not, GRF pulling out of a FINAL is a disgrace for swedish rugby, cover it with all the shit that you want but still a disgrace, if you want to excuse it, you are one step closer to negate swedish rugby problems, and that is not exiles...but yourselves!
//note, i am not the one who wrote the original, and not an exiles player, but would like to respond//
ReplyDeleteHere we go again. Anonymous 15:47 let me guess, you are an exiles player.
//Wrong//
How can I tell because you are criticising one of our teams AGAIN.
//"our Teams" - how disgraceful. Us/V's Them.//
Do you know why GRF pulled out of the cup final?
//No, but to do so on friday before a game, with no reason is terrible//
If so please share the information because until we hear it from someone at GRF none of us know.
//Yep, lets wait. If cost was issue.. everyone understand. But, if so, then cost would have been an issue 3 weeks earlier, so there was time to advise. Only other feasible reason is players pulling out. There was no chance of injury, as they did not play games prior - so.... take a guess//
To brand them as having a diabolical season is not fair on them.
//Perhaps, but on evidence, they have gone from finals to battling to stay up.... //
And then to state that they probably won't play in a senior final again and that they will certainly go down next year, is simply unfair.
//agreed, to much emotion...stupid comment, however you also are guilty as charged on emotional count.//
I am not a GRF player, in fact I am from Hammarby, but please don't make make negative statements based on lack of knowledge.
//I am not an exiles player, but wonder, based on your comments, if it is a few Hammarby players filling this forum with crap. Lets re-state an earlier comment by you and change the wording and see how you feel. "Let me guess, you are a Hammarby player, because, like your coach, you are trying to turn swedish rugby into an us V then scenario, and shout horrible shit from the sidelines //
This is more evidence as to why there are so many negative comments on here about Exiles players.
//This has nothing to do with it. Lets take a step back and remember, hammarby made a final, and beat exiles first round. Exiles had 1 new player since that round. Is this really all about exiles ???? I dont think so. The negative comments are most likely from ~5 people who have a history of hate. Sweden rugby has hundreds of participants...//
Please show some respect for each team that tries there hardest to compete each week.
//Seriously. GRF tried their hardest when then rang up and cancelled on friday before a cup final ??//
Until we here from someone from GRF can we please stop making up stories.
//There are no stories, just personal opinions that clubs should not pull out of championship games on Friday nights//
Lets enjoy our rugby and make sweden rugby stronger. STOP THE BITCHING !!!!!!!!!!!!!
A Clan Cheif talks....
ReplyDelete"As father of the Mabon clan I seem to come in for a fair amount of personal abuse, which also puzzles me a little bit. My goal in life, judging by the semi-illiterate hate-mail on Swedish rugby blogs is steered by some mad Goldfinger-like desire to dominate Swedish rugby by using my enormous wealth to buy rugby championship titles. As a former professor, poverty-stricken immigrant and reasonably succesful businessman with seven grandchildren it is hard to grasp why my life should be dominated by Swedish rugby medals"
"A few words on the poisonous atmosphere which seems to rapidly affect all anonymous blog sites no matter the original good intentions. I would like to think that there is only a very small number of sad people who derive pleasure from spewing irrational and uninformed hatred around them, whether it be aimed at individuals or clubs. Perhaps those in charge of the blogs could have a quick check every day before deciding what is worthy of publication. Not easy to achieve in practice, however"
It is quite easy to understand where the mentality and attitude of "we are the best and everyone else in Sweden is not in the vicinity of our greatness" comes from.
The good thing about self-confidence but do not be blind to other activities at other clubs also work or in some cases work very well. Confidence is good but self-awareness is perhaps preferable because it gives a little humility.
What I know won Enköping rest of the titles which were played on this year in all other tournaments, including that they had the most players in the Tens team that went to the finals and Gothenburg women dominated the rest of the women matches.
So there are at least two clubs that have done well this year and Spartacus and Hammarby, I also took a step forward.
But if you want to highlight your own members of the triab, as a Clan Cheif, you maybe must express yourself in the way he does?
08 rules in 08area hi hi hi!